Hunsicker and the 40 Man Roster
added 8/6/2001 by Steve Cutchen
Folks seem to ALWAYS second guess Gerry Hunsicker's roster moves.
For example, trading Scott Elarton, a young, strong pitcher for Pedro
Astacio. Or trading another good young starter in Tony McKnight for
the last part of Mike William's final contract year. But Gerry is
under not only salary constraints. He's also under the pressure of
the 40 Man Roster.
Sometimes, the Astros have to trim the roster from the top to make
room for the guys coming up.
You know this.
You've see The Lion King.
It's the Circle of Life!
Trimming From the Top
As examples of the typical fan reaction to recent trades, I've
been told the following:
"Astacio won't be around after this year, because he's
got an option for $9 million next year and is really nothing more
than a #3 starter. The Astros gave up 3 years of Elarton for 3
months of Astacio. Not at all a good trade."
and
"Williams is a nice pick-up if we can re-sign him. If
not, he cost us McKnight."
A good farm system starts to squeeze you from below when you don't
have enough 40-man roster slots to hold your 25 plus the good
prospects that are Rule 5 eligible.
Last winter we lost Eric Ireland to this numbers game. The Cubs
picked him up and traded him to the Oakland A's for Matt Stairs.
You have to start culling somewhere. That is the point of this
structure as negotiated by the Player's Association. It forces the
team's hands to do something with players or make them eligible for
some other team.
To work the system, you have to decide who is not long term. Then
you try to trade them for either someone you can use NOW or for
someone that is young enough to buy you a bit of time on the minors
roster.
That is the basis for this deal with Elarton and McKnight. Looking
at the organization and the projected progressions, the Astros felt
that neither were long term Astros in the show. So when can you get
value for them versus play out their string here? With this pennant
race, the Astros obviously feel that we have a chance to win THIS
YEAR. So we make a move now for some immediate help. Whether Astacio
or Williams are around next year is beside the point; we were going
to have to cull the 40-man roster anyway, and we'd decided Elarton
and McKnight were on that list. So spend them for help in THIS YEAR'S
pennant race.
My Take on the End of Season 40 Man Roster
OK. So maybe this argument makes sense. But do we REALLY have to
cull from the top THIS YEAR? Were Elarton and McKnight going to have
a chance at the 40-man roster at the end of the season?
To answer that question, I've gone through my own analysis of the
Astros organization and decided what I think the 40-man roster will
look like after the end of the season.
Surprises Because They DID Make it
- Mike Jackson
- Ron Villone
- Tony Eusebio
Surprises Because They DIDN'T Make it
- Pedro Astacio
- Dave Mlicki
- Mike Williams
- Bill Spiers
- Glen Barker
- Brian Powell
- Mike Rosamond
Methodology
- I started with the
current 40-Man roster.
- I did not take into account trading any current players. The
possibilities there are endless. We could decide, for
example, that we are going to trade Truby for a couple of guys
that don't need 40-man roster protection. That would open a spot.
And we give the third sacker slot to Morgan Ensberg next year.
- I marked all of the players that are either arbitration
eligible or are free agents at the end of the season. And I
included Pedro Astacio because I know we are not about to pick up
his $9 million+ option.
- I decided which of these I wanted the Astros to re-sign. These
went on the 40-man roster. My thought process went like this:
- Astacio.
Too expensive. I'll find a spot for him if he'll come cheap
enough. But I'm not betting on it.
- Bottenfield.
Buh-bye.
- Jackson.
I think he will come relatively cheap next year and he's good
bullpen strength.
- Villone.
Lefty. Bullpen strength. Can also start. 'Nuff said.
- Wagner.
Most important off-season job is resigning Billy.
- Williams.
Too early for me to commit. If he does well, someone will offer
him a lot of money to close.
- Eusebio
/ Servais.
I'll take only one. I picked Tony. Loyalty to Tony and to
Shane.
- Castilla.
Nails this year, but too expensive and we have Truby and
Ensberg
- Spiers.
Sorry Bill.
- Vizcaino.
No room at the inn.
- Alou.
I REALLY hope we resign him.
- Merced.
See Vizcaino.
- I looked at all of the other incumbents and decided which of
these I did not want to keep on the 40-man roster
- The only one I cut was Glen
Barker. Glen is a two tool guy; speed and defense. And he
doesn't use his speed well offensively. So he goes. Especially
with Jason Lane and Eric Cole coming up.
That's my Knuckleball. Try to hit it.
My 40 Man Roster Table
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FA/Arb?
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Protect/Keep?
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40 #
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INCUMBENTS
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PITCHERS
(22)
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y
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n
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Astacio, Pedro
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y
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n
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Bottenfield, Kent
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1
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Brocail,
Doug
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2
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Cruz,
Nelson
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3
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Dotel,
Octavio
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4
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Franklin,
Wayne
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5
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Hernandez,
Carlos
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y
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y
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6
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Jackson,
Mike
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7
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Kessel,
Kyle
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8
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Lidge,
Brad
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9
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Linebrink,
Scott
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10
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Mann, Jim
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11
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Miller,
Greg
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12
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Miller,
Wade
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y
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n
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Mlicki, Dave
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13
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Oswalt,
Roy
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14
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Redding,
Tim
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15
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Reynolds,
Shane
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16
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Rodriguez,
Wilfredo
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y
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y
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17
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Villone,
Ron
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y
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y
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18
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Wagner,
Billy
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y
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n
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Williams, Mike
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CATCHERS
(4)
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19
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Ausmus,
Brad
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y
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y
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20
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Eusebio,
Tony
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21
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Maldonado,
Carlos
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y
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n
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Servais, Scott
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INFIELDERS
(11)
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22
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Bagwell,
Jeff
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23
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Biggio,
Craig
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y
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n
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Castilla, Vinny
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24
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Ensberg,
Morgan
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25
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Everett,
Adam
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26
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Ginter,
Keith
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27
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Lopez,
Mendy
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28
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Lugo,
Julio
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y
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n
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Spiers, Bill
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29
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Truby,
Chris
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y
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n
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Vizcaino, Jose
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OUTFIELDERS
(6)
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y
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y
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30
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Alou,
Moises
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Barker, Glen
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31
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Berkman,
Lance
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32
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Hidalgo,
Richard
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y
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n
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Merced, Orlando
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33
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Ward,
Daryle
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RULE 5
ELIGIBLE
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R5
PITCHERS
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Driskel, Travis
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34
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Jamison,
Ryan
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35
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Nannini,
Mike
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Powell, Brian
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36
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Rodrigo,
Rosario
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37
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Wade,
Travis
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R5
CATCHERS
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38
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Buck, John
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R5
INFIELDERS
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R5
OUTFIELDERS
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39
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Cole, Eric
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40
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Lane,
Jason
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Rosamond, Mike
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